-To O’Mahony from J. Daly (Stephens)-May 20, 1864

Friday, 20 May 1864, Nashville. 'Private. Brother and friend. With large material and 171 members (some of them excellent and the vast majority average) already enrolled, there is something rotten in this Circle. Judge for yourself.

'And first about this State Centre, Mr Tom McCarthy. He is a man of various call­ings — market-master (or something of the kind), city magistrate (his election, as he informed me, with a hard smile and a local bow, has been owing to the Brotherhood), and play-actor. His character may be good but he is one of those folk whose faces, manner, and words leave an unfavorable impression. What to think of him on the whole I don't exactly know at present, but I am disposed to think badly of him. Some of the other officers are, I fear, more or less objectionable, and the whole Circle, with some 30 exceptions or so, has made an unpleasant impression on me. Still, as already said, there is fine material here and a good deal of work has been done. Would that the Circle had better officers or that I could think better of those it has. I must give you details.  'You recollect that the letter of special recommendation you wrote for me did not embrace the Tennessee district. This, as you must also remember, was simply be­cause we could not see far enough before us to enable you to announce my visit on a certain day. It was far from your mind, as from mine, to mean any disrespect to this State Centre in this way; and you doubtless considered that, where a special letter could not be written, your letter of credentials to the State Centres and Centres would be ample and unquestionable endorsement of my action. So it has been hitherto and so it would have been here also if Mr McCarthy were "the right man in the right place". This State Centre is even without the excuse of not having received special notice. On arrival in Louisville last Saturday I got Mr McGrath to forward to Mr McCarthy the special letter you wrote to Louisville. I instructed Mr McGrath to add a few lines himself telling Mr McCarthy to have his Circle ready to receive me on the following (last) Tuesday. Now mark the sequel. By dint of perseverance I succeeded in getting off (from Louisville) by the 7 a.m. train on Tuesday morning and reached here at 5 p.m. the same evening. Nobody met me at the station. As no one in Louis­ville could give me Mr McCarthy's exact address I had to make inquiries. These inquiries were all vain— I could not learn anything about his whereabouts. Fortunate­ly, I got in Louisville the address of a Mr Hugh Burns, who was spoken of as "a first-class fellow", "a whole-souled man", etc.

 

'The first impression made by Mr Burns was decide me one of those hard brassy fellows who will make                perfectly clear to me that he was fully aware of my chance. We began to talk. He was not satisfied with 1 There was a looseness about everything. Officers not to be always found at their posts. "Then", I said, "these officers are not good men. Why not elect others? You have the affair in your own hands". "Well, they were good men but they ————". "Could not be got to do their duty", I observed. The man could not be got to give a straightforward answer, and when a fellow of this kind shuffles you know what a hand he makes of it and how pleasant it is to have to do with him. This Mr Burns is in the wholesale spirit and, I think, victualling business and making money fast. He furnish­es the military and goes back and forward to the army. Consequently he knows many of the officers — the very highest, as he finds it his interest to make an occasional present of wine, etc. In fact he is a hard wide-awake money-grub. Still, he makes great professions of nationality and may not be altogether without some. He said it would be nothing more or less than "nonsense" to go to the camp — I could neither meet the officers nor do anything with them if we did meet. Though having my own opinion on this latter point, still, from what he and others afterwards told me, as well as from what I had learned from experience, I came to the conclusion that it would be sheer loss of a great deal of precious time to go further south. So, I had to abandon a move from which I had been expecting much, and give up my hope of acquiring the sort of knowledge I am so anxious to acquire.

 

'Mr Burns (very reluctantly and ungraciously) made up his mind to come with me in search of Mr McCarthy, I had almost forgotten to mention that Mr Burns spoke about our Mr McDermott ['Red Jim']. Privately he thought well of him — liked him and deemed him a fine gentlemanly young fellow, but he considered him quite unfit to go about in a public capacity. He said he told him so. He had also been informed tliat Mr McDermott had come here without your authority. I was surprised to hear this last circumstance. Why did you not tell me it was so? I told Mr Burns I thought Mr McDermott had your authority; at any rate you had since endorsed his action; and so the matter was all right. As to his fitness for public business I could not but agree with Mr Burns, who said emphatically that Mr McDermott's action had done injury. I find this to have been almost invariably the case; and, where there is no complaint, the work done by him is of small consequence; it will be found, too, on probing the matter that the work might have been far better done by another. There is a lesson in all this: better send out nobody than a man unfit to represent us. Would that you had been able to go over a great deal — all — this ground yourself. You could have done ten times the service your presence in New York has been able to effect. Not that I would have you absent from N.Y. for any great length of time. But could you not make frequent tours of a week, a fortnight, or even a month? Friend, there is certain ruin and shame before us if ceaseless and judicious action be not our motto henceforth.

 

'To return to Mr Burns, who by the way is fully compact of impudent conceit. We met several persons — Fenians — not one of whom could tell us where Mr McCarthy resided! Mr Burns was equally ignorant of his place of residence. Let me here observe that I had to make at least twenty inquiries before I could find out Mr Burns himself, and that everybody here I have met seems utterly ignorant of where every other body lives; finally, that information of any kind can be got only at the cost of immense trouble. An amiable and interesting People! At length, somebody told Mr Burns we might find Mr McCarthy at the theatre. I then discovered that Mr McCarthy is a professional play-actor. Now, an actor may be an excellent man but could he make a suitable State Centre? I think not, even if he had nothing else to attend to; and Mr McCarthy has two other callings to occupy him. On our way to the theatre I met a friend from St Louis. We instantly recognised each other; and on inquiry I found he had only just arrived and had seen and given Mr McCarthy his credentials. He came with us to the theatre. Mr McCarthy was not to be seen till next day!

'On parting with me, Mr Burns said that he and some friends would call on me about ten o'clock that night. Nobody called on me. I was beginning to feel that my time was being spent rather fruitlessly down here. By the way, I had learnt from Mr Burns that there could be no meeting before Thursday night! Though desirous of being brief, it is my duty to give all these details. This Circle, I am next to certain, is in a dangerous position owing, I am convinced, to the incapacity if not dishonesty of one officer if not more. Still, the material is great; and if you now handle the matter with skill and promptitude, this place can be made one of your strong points. I shall tell you bye and bye what I consider best to do.

 

'About ii on Wednesday forenoon I had a visit from Mr McCarthy: I have already told you the impression made on me. He seemed to think — rather, he spoke as if — he was managing matters admirably. Spite of his brass, however, I could easily detect a lurking consciousness of loose screws. He unwittingly let out, too, that he found the Brotherhood a good thing — for himself. On hearing how much I thought of Mr Donovan of Memphis he said something about resigning in his favour at the next Convention. There was evident anxiety, though, to know when the next Convention would be held; and [unless] I am much mistaken about this, he showed this still more on hearing that it might anticipate the anniversary of the first one. Mind, the man has impressed me most unfavorably, so that in going into this analysis I may be doing him injustice. He prides himself on his knowledge of parliamentary usages, and to this and his ability to crack a joke he seems to attribute his success with the body! I had previously learnt that the Hall is frequently made the scene of witless jest and merriment, and what I witnessed last night confirmed this to some extent.

'He promised, on going, to be with me again at 2 p.m. He certainly did not come at 2 or any other hour on Wednesday. I say certainly because I remained in the whole day and till I went to bed at night. Yet he stated at the meeting last evening that he called twice on me the day before! Nobody called on me the whole of Wednesday! Again, on leaving me on Wednesday forenoon he said he would advertise the meeting for Thursday evening in the local papers. No such advertisement has appeared! In short it was clear to me by Wednesday night that, for some reason I could not be sure of, the State Centre and Mr Burns — with

 

probably some others — did not wish to meet the Circle. It was equally clear to me that Mr Burns, while pretending to be dissatisfied with Mr McCarthy, had a thorough understanding with him! What could it all mean? Determined on probing the matter I called on Mr McCormack yesterday morning. This gentleman has made a good position here and resides next door to Mr Burns. From the first I liked this man; he is genial, earnest, and unpresuming. He received me well, and his astonishment was considerable — he was indignant — at finding I had been left alone all the previous day. He went into Burns, who was ungracious — discourteous indeed — and dogged: "things were done loosely; should have been done in such and such a way". All this was for McCarthy, with whom nevertheless there was a thorough understanding. You shall

see. On leaving, Mr McCormack promised to call on me about 7 in the evening to bring me to the Hall. I understood Burns to say that he also would call on me. If so, he as usual broke his word. About six, Mr McCarthy came with a friend of his whose name I have forgotten though he called him his Vice-President. McCarthy said the meeting could not be got together before 8 or 8^ o'clock, and that he would call again at 8 on his way to the Hall. McCormack was true to his appointment and he chatted till some minutes past 8. In the course of conversation Mr McCormack said, smiling, that he thought he ought to tell me he had heard that I might not be the right man; but of course I had credent­ials. I laughed and said I had 4 of the best. He evidently made nothing of the matter.

 

'We then went to the Hall. There were a good many men at the outer door waiting for admission. Dissatisfaction was expressed by more than one at not finding the door open. They did not seem to know how to get the key — where to find the door­keeper. After waiting a while they decided on picking the lock and going in. All the members who came were soon present. The State Centre (who here, as in Louisville, is local Centre also) arrived and called the meeting to order. The ordinary business was proceeded with but soon suspended in order to hear me. I spoke and spoke well. There could be no mistake about the impression made on the vast majority of those present. Let me here state that the members present were but 63. Evidently nothing had been done to bring the men together; nay, it looks as if they had been kept away;

for I was told that they frequently have 80 to 100 at an ordinary meeting. But what were there were, for by far the most part, very favorably impressed. My statement was clear and tellingly to the point. We came to the gist of the matter. Burns' name happened to be first on the list. He rose to his legs and, with an absurd mixture of modesty and brass, pretended he required time to think over the matter. He was taken by surprise and wished to see his way. He did not mean to give one dollar or five dollars; he meant to give all in his power when satisfied that all was right, etc.

 

This is the substance, infinitely better expressed, of what he said 'I rose to order, not however till some had followed Burns' example and that it became clear to me that, if unchecked, the great majority if not all would have done so; nor would I have risen at all had I not a strong suspicion of foul play. I spoke of the necessity existing for the action I had proposed, telling them that all depended on a favorable response to my call. I said that if Mr Burns and others did not choose to do so that others might be willing to act differently, and I called on them to act. Somewhat more than half the meeting cheered and backed me out. Mr McCormack rose and said the time had come to prove their words — that there was no time to lose — that those who made big promises had now an opportunity of making them good — that he himself would open the subscription with 50 dollars to be increased at will. His words were well received, though the poor man speaks with much difficul­ty. With evident reluctance, Mr State Centre had to go on. A few more than half the members present subscribed, the total being 345 dollars. Now, but for Burns and the State Centre there would have been 1,000 dollars subscribed; nay, if a proper example had been set by these two men, it is likely that McCormack alone would have sub­scribed that sum.

'In the course of the evening it came out that these folk were in doubt about me — that, in a word, they felt it their duty to treat me as an impostor. Mr Burns pro­posed that the secretary be called on to write to Mr John O'Mahony asking if he had authorised my action, etc. I said that had Mr Bums known Mr O'Mahony he would have spared him the trouble; as, if Mr O'Mahony had not endorsed my action fully he would never have written the letter of credentials already read to the meeting. Then the question was put [to] the State Centre, was that letter genuine? Your letter to McGrath was lying before the State Centre. He read that and gave it as his opinion and the opinion of the secretary that the body of the letter was not genuine! This was done in a very bad way. I kept my temper well. Walking up to him, I produced your general introduction to the Centres and State Centres, asking if that was genuine. McCarthy tried to shuffle — to get out of giving a direct answer. I pressed for it and got a favorable one from the secretary first and then from Mr State Centre; several other parties appeared to recognise the writing.

 
T then asked and got permission to read the letter. That, it seemed to me, was complete endorsement of the action. Most present thought so, and cries began to be raised that I had been badly treated, etc. I said, "Gentlemen, from the first moment of my arrival here to the present I have been treated with neglect and
discourtesy. To my single self this is a matter of indifference, and if I feel anything at all it is solely lest the cause should suffer. To those who have treated me and Mr O'Mahony with respect and confidence I offer

my best thanks. I trust that others whose conduct has been strange, to say the least, will atone for that conduct when they come to know better". I exhorted them to pull well together and do their very best on this occasion. Burns and McCarthy began to pull in—said they only wanted to be sure of what they did — that if you said all was right they would do their part, etc. The secretary was directed to write to you.

'Now what I fear is that there is dishonesty in the case of these two men at least;

or, what comes to the same thing, that they want to use the body without losing any­thing by it. They both spoke of the body as being "heavily taxed". In the mouths of these folk such language is disgusting. Burns is well off and making money in piles, and the many callings of Mr State Centre (one of which he owes to the body) must bring him something. Note that the poor hardworking man utters no complaint of this mean kind; his only regret seeming to be his inability to do what his heart prompts him. Overtaxed! The mean dogs! Why, their miserable monthly dues would be drunk at the first corner in five minutes. I heard this cry, fortunately, in but very few places. Yet almost every place has been taxed more than this. They have sent you up 100 dollars, it seems. Now they admit having 400 or 500 dollars still on hand. From a tolerably good source I had previously learned that they had 800 dollars. Can there be any dishonesty in this way? Could the opposition last night have arisen from the fact of their having made away with this money or a fear of its being now called for? I shall leave instructions with Mr McCormack to take a vote on this at [the] next meeting — to vote that all the money be forwarded to you at once.

 

'Now as to how they should be dealt with. You must be very prudent and not let them have the least notion of your having any suspicion of them. They will probably write to you by this post. Whether or not, do you write immediately on receipt of this. Say in the blandest way that you are sorry to hear from Mr Daly [James Stephens] that, owing to a doubt of my having been fully authorised to take action here, the meeting last night was very unsatisfactory. Not one word, mind, of details. Then add how fully you do endorse my action, saying all you deem wise of me and the men I represent. End by showing the great and urgent necessity for one general and final effort. Add that every man who now answers this special and extraordinary call shall be exempt from the like in future. Should McCarthy tender his resignation, say that from the work done by him (work being the great test) you cannot accept; at least you cannot do so for the present. But remind him of his monthly report and keep him to it, strictly as you can.

 

'I am now tired and must moreover see about the practicalability of getting off today. It is by no means certain that I can do so, or even tomorrow. Send me a line to Cleveland. Any letter you may keep till I get to N.Y.

 

'P.S. Of course, while exempting those who now subscribe from a similar call again, you will not exempt them from the ordinary dues of the body. All new members, too, will not only have to meet these ordinary dues but may be called on for an extra­ordinary subscription. The first sentence of this P.S. should be written; the latter not, as it might deter men from joining'.

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